To get to the point, I think the movie was f*cking awesome. One of the best of the year, Ledger's performance is a thing to marvel at. The rest of the cast is also on the top of their game, and that's one hell of a game.
My one quibble is Gylenhaal. She is a fine actress, but lacks 'presence', you can't believe that is such a powerful woman, and Batman's love interest, one that he would give up being the Batman to stay with her. At least, she was better than Holmes.
By the way, this is one funny thing (you are not being Rick-Rolled
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sYBqhOEdRQ
My one quibble is Gylenhaal. She is a fine actress, but lacks 'presence', you can't believe that is such a powerful woman, and Batman's love interest, one that he would give up being the Batman to stay with her. At least, she was better than Holmes.
By the way, this is one funny thing (you are not being Rick-Rolled
):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sYBqhOEdRQ
"Wer ein holdes Weib errungen..."
"My religion is the one in which Haydn is pope" - by me.
"Set a course, take it slow, make it happen."
"My religion is the one in which Haydn is pope" - by me.
"Set a course, take it slow, make it happen."
the best part of that spoof is towards the end when Batman has the guy in the alley
"where is he?!"
"I don't know..."
long pause batman throws him to the ground
"damnit"
batman walks off...
lol..that was funny
"where is he?!"
"I don't know..."
long pause batman throws him to the ground
"damnit"
batman walks off...
lol..that was funny
"Some men aren’t looking for anything logical. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
Spoilers? I don't know....just skip my post if you haven't seen it.
The best batman by far. The ending was a little smaltzy, I really hate monologuing.
But.....there was very little that I was not saying, "That is pretty forking cool" to.
Tip my hat to the director, he coaxed out some dyno-mite performances. Joker seriously creeped me out, and Harvey Dent? That is what good CGI is for.
I'm not sure I understood the whole "sonar" mapping thing. But there was very little that pulled the 'willful suspension'. The flipping of the truck was a FANTASTIC touch.
Excellent flick. I think I'll go see it in Imax next week if at all possible.
The Watchman trailer almost made me wet my pants, I am SO looking forward to that film. Anyone else get about 90 minutes of previews in front of the movie? It's like they were trying to put the entire summer line up in front of us.
The best batman by far. The ending was a little smaltzy, I really hate monologuing.
But.....there was very little that I was not saying, "That is pretty forking cool" to.Tip my hat to the director, he coaxed out some dyno-mite performances. Joker seriously creeped me out, and Harvey Dent? That is what good CGI is for.
I'm not sure I understood the whole "sonar" mapping thing. But there was very little that pulled the 'willful suspension'. The flipping of the truck was a FANTASTIC touch.
Excellent flick. I think I'll go see it in Imax next week if at all possible.
The Watchman trailer almost made me wet my pants, I am SO looking forward to that film. Anyone else get about 90 minutes of previews in front of the movie? It's like they were trying to put the entire summer line up in front of us.
I just returned from watching Batman a second time this afternoon.
I am happy to say that I enjoyed it more the second time than the first. Of course, I really enjoyed it the first time, but it seemed a bit too dark and depressing for the mood I was in.
Seeing it the second time, but knowing already that it isn't happy film, it was easier for me to absorb it all and it was more uplifting than I originally felt. In particular, the ferry scene was just a side-show to me the first time, but on second viewing, it is all-important. I had tears in my eyes the 2nd time.
Also, Jen is right on about the CGI effect on Harvey. That was one of the best uses of CGI I've ever seen.
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Two of the central character appeared to die in the film (initials RD and HD). Did they really die? Will we see either of them return in a subsequent installment?
I am happy to say that I enjoyed it more the second time than the first. Of course, I really enjoyed it the first time, but it seemed a bit too dark and depressing for the mood I was in.
Seeing it the second time, but knowing already that it isn't happy film, it was easier for me to absorb it all and it was more uplifting than I originally felt. In particular, the ferry scene was just a side-show to me the first time, but on second viewing, it is all-important. I had tears in my eyes the 2nd time.
Also, Jen is right on about the CGI effect on Harvey. That was one of the best uses of CGI I've ever seen.
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The Dark Knight was not a fun movie. A great movie, yes. But not fun. Iron Man was loads of fun. Iron Man's plot and characters were relatively thin while The Dark Knight had much more depth of story and characters.
Now, if I could choose between being Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, I'd pick Tony in an wink.
Stark's a pretty definite choice for who one might want to be, but as a viewer I still prefer Wayne. Stark is a very refreshing character for Marvel though, I have to admit, and a welcome change.
Wayne has to be one of the best written and most complex characters in fiction, all genres included. He seems to develop new and yet familiar layers with every passing eras from Year One to old age and remains interesting throughout the years. Even Batman Beyond was a little gem, not for the main teenage character but for good old Bruce. Very naturally and expectadly, he slowly turned into an aged man who managed to alleniate most of his friends with his selfish obssesion, lives alone with a mean dog in his empty estate and is no longer able to achieve the only purpose he's ever set for his life. That is, until he finds some young guy to groom like his son and pass on his dark legacy, rather selfishly again, even if it suits the boy.
His evolution seems to naturally and logically emulate life without ever being a cliché, and he is perhaps the super hero who seems the most alive because of his perpetual state of change. A true textbook for character development if there ever was one.
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ANOTHER SPOILER ALERT!!DrPaul wrote: Two of the central character appeared to die in the film (initials RD and HD). Did they really die? Will we see either of them return in a subsequent installment?
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Yes, I believe that both of those characters are gone my friend. I don't think HD was meant to stay around too long in this series. I've been doing some reading and it looks like this take on the Batman story is meant to be a trilogy and will be wrapped up in the next film. I think HD was to be used as a springboard for the next film since Batman took it upon himself to be responsible for the people that HD killed so the public wouldn't know what type of person he really turned out to be. My question is....The Joker was killed off like I was expecting him to be....so what happens to that character? Do you think maybe he was sparred in the hopes of bringing him back later but now cannot be brought back with Heath Ledgers death...because let's face it...if any of you guys have seen this movie, you know within 5 minutes of Ledger being on the screen there is no way in hell anyone else could just step in to replace him for the duration of this trilogy.
"Some men aren’t looking for anything logical. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
If true, this is unfortunate. These first two films only served to get the series "up to speed," so to speak.I've been doing some reading and it looks like this take on the Batman story is meant to be a trilogy and will be wrapped up in the next film.
The first film, Batman Begins, was, more or less, the birth of Batman. But, to a great extent, Batman is defined by his villains and there were no Batman-like villains yet in Batman Begins.
The Dark Knight, finally introduced the Batman-style of villain and with these freakish-type villains, the world of Gotham is forever changed. So with this film, everything is finally in place and a 'real' Batman series can begin. So it would be a pity to stop just as they're finally getting started.
I have a feeling that the return on investment is going to be too good for the producers to resist continuing.
Just got back from seeing the movie. I have to agree with most everyone else here. This has to be the best Batman movie made, and there is no way anyone else could fill Ledger's shoes now as far as The Joker goes.
There were several screaming/crying kids in the film, and my dad and I were discussing how messed up it is that parents are bringing their little kids to movies like that. Guess its a sign of the times. Most parents these days don't care what their kids see.
There were several screaming/crying kids in the film, and my dad and I were discussing how messed up it is that parents are bringing their little kids to movies like that. Guess its a sign of the times. Most parents these days don't care what their kids see.
adninsreaction wrote:ANOTHER SPOILER ALERT!!DrPaul wrote: Two of the central character appeared to die in the film (initials RD and HD). Did they really die? Will we see either of them return in a subsequent installment?
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Yes, I believe that both of those characters are gone my friend. I don't think HD was meant to stay around too long in this series. I've been doing some reading and it looks like this take on the Batman story is meant to be a trilogy and will be wrapped up in the next film. I think HD was to be used as a springboard for the next film since Batman took it upon himself to be responsible for the people that HD killed so the public wouldn't know what type of person he really turned out to be. My question is....The Joker was killed off like I was expecting him to be....so what happens to that character? Do you think maybe he was sparred in the hopes of bringing him back later but now cannot be brought back with Heath Ledgers death...because let's face it...if any of you guys have seen this movie, you know within 5 minutes of Ledger being on the screen there is no way in hell anyone else could just step in to replace him for the duration of this trilogy.
I was disappointed with the death of HD, I was actually expecting them to introduce him in this film and carry him over into the next Batman film as the main villain. As for RD, I can actually see the sense in killing her off. It's something that drives HD over the edge and inspires Batman even further to continue his crusade on crime. I'm hoping the death is genuine (not to sound psychotic by any means lol).
Although most everyone already covered the topic well, I'm going to add my 2 cents worth anyway...because I'm just like that.
Loved it. If you haven't seen it in IMAX, then go...right now...don't wait...just go. The visuals are very impressive on a 5 story x 8 story screen.
The only real draw back of this film was the Rachel Dawes character. It felt entirely superfluous (I hope I spelled that right) - except for the obvious motivation factor. Maggie Gyllenhall was marginally better at the role then Katie Holms, but only marginally. There were damned few scenes where she was really any good. But I blame that on the character and the script (best scenes for her were at the fund raiser and the warehouse thingy - everything else - bleh), not necessarily the actress. And all in all this tiny flaw in this otherwise masterpiece is easily overlooked.
I found that Heath Ledger and Gary Oldman just chewed up the scenery whenever they were on screen. They were both absolutely fantastic and outshone any two actors in the movie. But I don't want to take away from the other performances which were all first rate (except for the already mentioned Gyllenhall/Dawes trouble). Aaron Eckhart played a marvelous role and could easily have been the best villain - if not for the brilliant performance of Ledger.
Anyway, 10 out of 10. Awesome movie. Go see it if you haven't. Go see it again, if you have. This is a movie that should be viewed on the big screen - don't wait for video or HBO - you'll be disappointed.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Loved it. If you haven't seen it in IMAX, then go...right now...don't wait...just go. The visuals are very impressive on a 5 story x 8 story screen.
The only real draw back of this film was the Rachel Dawes character. It felt entirely superfluous (I hope I spelled that right) - except for the obvious motivation factor. Maggie Gyllenhall was marginally better at the role then Katie Holms, but only marginally. There were damned few scenes where she was really any good. But I blame that on the character and the script (best scenes for her were at the fund raiser and the warehouse thingy - everything else - bleh), not necessarily the actress. And all in all this tiny flaw in this otherwise masterpiece is easily overlooked.
I found that Heath Ledger and Gary Oldman just chewed up the scenery whenever they were on screen. They were both absolutely fantastic and outshone any two actors in the movie. But I don't want to take away from the other performances which were all first rate (except for the already mentioned Gyllenhall/Dawes trouble). Aaron Eckhart played a marvelous role and could easily have been the best villain - if not for the brilliant performance of Ledger.
Anyway, 10 out of 10. Awesome movie. Go see it if you haven't. Go see it again, if you have. This is a movie that should be viewed on the big screen - don't wait for video or HBO - you'll be disappointed.
And that's all I have to say about that.
I just wish I had a nickel for every brilliant idea I ever had...wait...oh, darn...I do.
Spoiler? Maybe? If you have read the previous posts.
I thought it was pretty ambiguous whether HD died or not. Almost...a 50/50 chance. I'm wagering heads, the side without the scratches.
I thought it was pretty ambiguous whether HD died or not. Almost...a 50/50 chance. I'm wagering heads, the side without the scratches.
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I wouldn't count him dead as well. Dead to the public maybe, but as a villain? Count me among those who were very surprised to see him get as much screen time once Two-Face. I expected the warehouse scene to be one of the lasts, as an intro for the next movie, but they kept on developing his story to a conclusion. It's strange because while I feel they haven't covered Two-Face as much as they could have (especially considering his potential from Batman TAS) at the same time it feels like there's nothing else to do with him now, even if he is still alive.
I'm curious as to where it will go from now. After seeing Begins I thought they couldn't do any better, and then they went and did this masterpiece. This time around there are no indications of things to come, except that Gotham will hunt down Batman. Who the villains will be is anybody's guess I suppose.
I wouldn't count him dead as well. Dead to the public maybe, but as a villain? Count me among those who were very surprised to see him get as much screen time once Two-Face. I expected the warehouse scene to be one of the lasts, as an intro for the next movie, but they kept on developing his story to a conclusion. It's strange because while I feel they haven't covered Two-Face as much as they could have (especially considering his potential from Batman TAS) at the same time it feels like there's nothing else to do with him now, even if he is still alive.
I'm curious as to where it will go from now. After seeing Begins I thought they couldn't do any better, and then they went and did this masterpiece. This time around there are no indications of things to come, except that Gotham will hunt down Batman. Who the villains will be is anybody's guess I suppose.
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