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Sai wrote:
@joilet_jane: Hows that last one? If its OK I'll send it into them via Send Message.

It's better, thanks. The shorter, the better.

Posted around 10pm Eastern on the KS comment section:

Chris Jones & Aaron Conners 5 minutes ago
Technical Difficulties w/ our PayPal counter image on the BFG homepage. It should be remedied in the morning.
Thanks everyone!

joliet_jane wrote:It's better, thanks. The shorter, the better.

Okie dokie. Sent a "Send Message" with it.

redcat72 wrote:Posted around 10pm Eastern on the KS comment section:

Chris Jones & Aaron Conners 5 minutes ago
Technical Difficulties w/ our PayPal counter image on the BFG homepage. It should be remedied in the morning.
Thanks everyone!

Thanks! I was already asleep in the UK by then so missed it. Good to know they are looking into the mysteriously disappearing image.

Sai, JJ, after all that with making the banner smaller the big paypal graphic just keeps getting bumped down the page with every update!

Sai wrote: I have games on Steam but I can see the concern. It was a pain when my net went down and I couldnt play a game due to needing to speak to the Steam server.

There are ways around that, as Steam offers an offline mode. You have to be online initially to set it up, but I've used it before if I knew in advance my connection was going to be down for a while.

I religiously use Steam, and have a pretty sizable library of games. I don't see the Steam servers just not being there someday, but even if they are, I've read somewhere that Valve said they would turn off the online protection schemes to the games before they went offline so that everyone could download all the games they owned and play them whenever they wanted. (I'd have to buy a bunch of data sticks to stick my games on, but at least they wouldn't be gone forever.)

Steam is a great platform, and I really hope Project Fedora gets released on it, if only to be exposed to the millions of people who use it.

Mac wrote:Sai, JJ, after all that with making the banner smaller the big paypal graphic just keeps getting bumped down the page with every update!

Maybe the image with the DLC/DRM info should just also have "PayPal accepted" on it so people will know that PP is there to scroll down for.

Either way, some of the ads I put on http://spoonyexperiment.com/ link directly to the BFG PP page, not the Kickstarter, and mention PP in the ad. And those ads have been getting hundreds of clicks.




Of course, I'll never know how effective they really are.

the paypal total is now working on big finish web site, $3,400

Mr. Thomas Malloy wrote:There are ways around that, as Steam offers an offline mode. You have to be online initially to set it up, but I've used it before if I knew in advance my connection was going to be down for a while.

My ISP never gives me a heads up Thanks for the heads up on the offline mode though.

I guess there might be some games that force you to go into online mode though when re-installing. When Big Finish mentioned requiring online activation I think they meant every time you want to install the game you have to connect (rather than the GOG way which only requires you to connect when first downloading the game). I don't know much about it though. I have quite a few games on Steam after a few great Steam sales and Indie Bundles but I never get much time to actually play them these days.... *sigh*

Steam is a great platform, and I really hope Project Fedora gets released on it, if only to be exposed to the millions of people who use it.

Yeah definitely. I and 2 others have been building a Steam group for Project Fedora that now has over 930 members. So when Project Fedora goes live on Steam I think we could announce it to the group so they can tell others in the Steam network about it (or if some joined the group out of curiosity only, to hear the game is now available on their favourite platform would maybe prompt them to part with their cash).
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tex_mu ... ect_fedora

I also hope they get a version up on GOG upon release since the previous ones are up there and a number of people can then just get the whole collection. I was kinda surprised they seemed to say it wasnt a surefire thing yet or just something for "years later" (quoted on the GOG thread). But that was before they confirmed scrapping online activation as a necessity so perhaps GOG will be carrying it on release.

I will be glad for the download on BigFinish' site (and the boxed version assuming that doesn't require online activation when installing either) "just incase" as backup regardless of whatever might happen in 20+ years, you never know. After all they have every right to change Steam policy at anytime regarding the "fallback" plan if Valve goes down or they could just change hands management wise before then and not bother

Mac wrote:Sai, JJ, after all that with making the banner smaller the big paypal graphic just keeps getting bumped down the page with every update!

I think they should have just the "Latest Update" at the top (and maybe other important info like the No DRM/DLC and PayPal) and filter past updates to below the Project Description like other Kickstarters... Newcomers currently need to scroll past 10 video updates, 1 image update, and 3 voting updates before they can learn what the project is about... Last time though they just deleted everything except the Latest Update from the main page which I dont really want, since newcomers to the project dont tend to check Updates. Would be nice to see Cub's San Francisco Voice Episode 1 and 2 further down the page for example.

this paypal thing on big finish doesn't update inline with kick starter page

plumgas wrote:this paypal thing on big finish doesn't update inline with kick starter page

Nope. Last I heard people say it is updated twice daily or something like that, not sure.

Does Paypal take a cut of the funds the same way Kickstarter does?

pyremes wrote:Does Paypal take a cut of the funds the same way Kickstarter does?

In a way it does. PayPal Business accounts take a percentage of payments for its services. I know because a professional organization I work with uses PP to handle its membership fee payments. It was my idea and I set it up. Not that I like PP, but it's the easiest way to do it, alas.

Even for in-person stores, credit card processing isn't free. They have to pay for that, hence those crappy "credit card purchases $5 minimum" signs at smaller stores. They used to be not allowed to do that, but MasterCard changed the policy to allow up $10 minimum purchases. So it's up to the retailer if saving a few cents-dollars in transaction fess is worth pissing off customers.

PayPal total was updated. Last night it was $10,733 last I looked I think. Then this morning it was showing $12,784. Currently its at $14,385.

Yess keep it coming! Lets break a million! (with Kickstarter + PayPal + Big Finish funds)
If you can let others know they can still preorder / donate at PayPal, and the funds will still go to expanding gameplay etc. It'll remain up for roughly one more week if not more they said.

pyremes wrote:Does Paypal take a cut of the funds the same way Kickstarter does?

Yes, but it's a smaller cut.