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Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 03, 2009 • 11:00 pm
by Jen
Saw Milk yesterday. I only knew a little bit of the story, so I was shocked in how it turned out. I liked the credits where it showed where they are now.

An important movie, and well done. My companion said Penn redeemed himself from Into the Wild. :roll:

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 04, 2009 • 10:30 pm
by Frank
Penn has many a reason to seek redemption :P Haven't seen Milk yet, but it did look pretty well crafted.

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 04, 2009 • 11:19 pm
by Bafitis
Has anyone seen that movie Quarantine yet??? I just picked it up out of Redbox, think I'm going to watch it tomorrow...


This is a rather old movie, but I just re-watched it recently, it's called Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned, starring Laurence Fishburne... Sometimes it's just referred to as Always Outnumbered... But Netflix uses the long title...
I don't know why, but I love this movie, the story just reaches in and touches something...
It was originally made for HBO... It's about an Ex-con who is trying to make something of his life while trying to help an orphan make something of his, at the same time trying to help the neighborhood solve all their problems...

If you haven't seen it and have something like Netflix or something, I highly recommend it...

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 6:53 am
by mr_cyberpunk
Just saw Watchmen.. AWESOME film if you're into comics. Definitely all Tex fans and Blade Runner fans should give this one a look because its soundtrack sounds identical to blade runner at times and its style is full of 1980s vibe.

Just an excellently written film.

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 8:19 am
by DrPaul
I have to go see Watchmen twice today. I have one group of friends going at 12:45 and another at seven.

I'm anxious to see if a reference that was made in the graphic novel is included in the movie.

The graphic novel made a reference to an old Outer Limits episode that aired in 1963 called The Architects of Fear starring Robert Culp. To anyone who has seen that episode (I remember it well) it is a kind of spoiler for the story. I don't know if it will be as relevant in the movie-version.

Do any of you remember that episode? I won't say any more about it because it is a potential spoiler.

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 5:25 pm
by Fred Buer
I just came home after seeing Watchmen. That said - SPOILER WARNING





















I felt cheated at the end of it. Huge disappointment for me. No monster? Blame Dr. Manhattan? That's a cheap rewrite to A) Dumb the story down and trim away the genetical research stuff and B) Blatantly give off the message that Mankind is the Real Monster. Screw that. I wanted Watchmen, what I got was an abomination of the original story. Having gotten that out of the way: The director is halfways good with montages. Beyond that he lacks in telling a story. To close this circle: I felt cheated.

Going to re-read the comic now.

-Fred

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 5:28 pm
by Bafitis
For those who have seen it, do you think it is Kid Friendly??? I realize it is based from a Comic, but sometimes they over step a few lines if you ask me...

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 6:22 pm
by Fred Buer
MORE SPOILERS!!
















According to the Normalized American Standards? No. Full frontal nudity, extended sex-scenes, multiple use of the dreaded f-word and oh yes, bloody violence including a circular saw to the arms, children being fed to dogs, pregnant women shot to death, hatchets to the head (multiple times) rape-scenes, and oh yes, several cases of the gory explodey death. Also, the one bit with the open dog's skull with brains showing was a class act shot.

All of this, by the way? All true.

It's also not based on a comic, per se. Watchmen is considered a novel, and sits upon Time Magazine's list over 100 best novels from the 20th century as #14. If I recall correctly.

Do not expect an action-packed thriller. This is not X-Men. This is not Spider-Man. This is not The Incredible Hulk or Superman or Batman or any of your cuddly lovable superhero-comic books.

I would assume that in America, this film is rated for Adults. As it should be. After all, this is an attempt to recreate Alan Moore's Watchmen.

-Fred

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 6:25 pm
by Fred Buer
NO SPOILERS: I loved Rorschach! At least something got done right! Worth seeing the film for his sake alone.

Don't bring children.

-Fred

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 6:40 pm
by Bafitis
Thanks Fred... Yes in America it is very much so rated for adults...
I don't know much about the Watchmen... I figured it was another Comic made into a movie type thing...
Thanks for the insight...


hmmm, I was thinking of taking my Son to the movies this weekend... I guess I could take him to see Pink Panther...
Not much Kid related stuff out there right now... Maybe I'll take him to Lazer Tag instead...

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 10:28 pm
by DrPaul
As planned, I saw Watchmen twice today.

I agree totally with Fred regarding the monster - or lack thereof. I also agree that Rorschach stole the show (Not counting Malin Akerman in her sexy Silk Specter II outfit. - wow!)

I think there were several things that Snyder got right. For instance, I immediately recognized him as Dan Dreiberg. He was perfectly cast and played the character to a T. He was not a strong character, but he wasn't a strong character in the novel either. He was just right.

The Comedian was fabulous. I liked him even better than the comic book version.

A lot of the dialog was right out of the book and many of the shots were the comic book panels come to life.

On the down side, I didn't like the Adrian Veidt character. And, of course. no monster. That was the biggest disappointment. In spite of these few complaints, I thought it was wonderful, but DEFINITELY no for kids.

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 10:37 pm
by Vracar
Luckily, I didn't read the initial graphic novel, so I was thus not bogged down by pretentious expectations of artist integrity. I say the movie was awesome and an action packed thriller, even if Fred says differently.

Also, Rorschach was awesome. And Malin Akerman was definitely sexy, with or without her Silk Specter II outfit on.

P.S.
Will I go around to read the comic now? I'm sure it's on my to do list somewhere, but I don't feel the need to rush towards that. I didn't read most of the comic that were turned into the plots of X-Men, Spiderman, Batman, etc. Why consider Watchmen any different?

P.P.S.
I probably could consider Watchmen different, simply because I don't have to read through hundreds of crappy first issues to get to the interesting stuff. Reading through the initial X-Men comics was suffering.

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 06, 2009 • 11:06 pm
by Jen
Watchmen chock full of spoilers, so give a pass if you haven't seen it.......













Ok, I’m hella tired so forgive me if I don’t make a lot of sense. Snyder kept this movie as true to form as possible given the time allowed. The movie was titled Watchmen, so he kept it to that. No Bernies, no Black Freighter, no in depth look at the shrink, the woman who stopped by to pick up the Hustler mag, or the missing artists. The movie was pushing 3 hours long, even the Minutemen got a little less back story. Hooded Justice for sure. But they did do Silhouette, and it was nice that he did try to wiggle in as much of them as he could.

Strengths: Comedian, hands down, better acted and a more sympathetic character than in the graphic novel. In the movie I did get the feeling that he really did love (as much as he could) SS1, and his humanity shown through, (what little he had) lol

Big figure, nuff said.

I also loved the blue glow of Manhatten, it added so much more depth than simple CGI. And they didn’t wuss out on hiding manhattens nether regions all the time so good on that.

Rorschach was perfect. Especially his last few lines. AMAZING!

Weakness: Psychicly twisted Vaginasquid missing? Yes, a noticeable change, but Adrian’s goal was to unite the world towards a common enemy, and let’s face it, there was no way there was enough time to weave the entire supposed Hollywood movie, secret island, ship blowing up, all these artists are missing plotline into the film in under 5 hours. Yes, a monster created a monster in the Graphic Novel, but it still was an awful joke. Turn the puppet of Manhattan (and he was for sure a puppet) into a threat to all mankind, turning his almost divine gift of unlimited energy into a deavesting weapon.

I wish they had incorporated the antartica butterfly shot in adrians speech in the GN. That butterfly on his associates face was one of my favorite visuals.

Wow, my words are starting to blur, so I’ll wrap it up. But Fred, you didn’t know about the ending (presuming you didn’t do a lot of digging before hand) till the very end. It had to have impressed you before then. If Kevin Smith was willing to cut him slack about the change, I most certainly can to.

I’m open to more discussion, but after some sleepy time.

Jen

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 07, 2009 • 9:36 pm
by Fred Buer
YES, STILL SPOILERICIOUS!













Well, I kinda twigged on when I realized that the Comedian hadn't found out about any island at all. Around the Drunken-Comedian-Visits-Moloch scene. That's when I got worried. I didn't know he'd try to blame Manhattan instead, but, still. I knew something was up.

Granted, the monster was one of the things I was looking forward to seeing on the big screen, so, maybe it was more of a personal loss than anything else, but... Come on! :D You know? Come ON... :lol:

As a small aside - I also wish they hadn't changed how Rorschach perceived himself 'soft' on criminals in his earlier days. Suddenly he's chopping this guy's head open with a meatcleaver. In the graphic novel, that's the scene where he handcuffs a guy and hands him a saw, soaks the room in gasoline and lights a fire, giving the guy the option to saw his leg off and crawl off. Meaning he saw himself as soft because he actually gave criminals a semblance of a chance.

Which I thought was more effectful. Anyway!

My favorite scene (the one that really sticks in my head) is, for some reason, the introduction montage. The one with the Bob Dylan song - The Times They Are A-Changin'. I loved that.

But then, if I'd have made the film, it would've been 3 hours, 15 minutes, and had a giant bastard monster in the end ;) Other than that, well... Good enough, I suppose. It's just that this is a film I didn't want to nitpick on, and ended up nitpicking, I guess.

And now - sleep (for me as well!)

-Fred

Edited to add: I also didn't like the portrayal of Ozymandias (Surely a better actor for the part could have been found?) and Doc? The Outer Limits was referenced at the end, although I didn't catch any reference to any specific episode.

Re: The last film you´ve seen and your thoughts about it

Posted: March 07, 2009 • 10:32 pm
by lestat666
Anyone here see the motion comic??

Its pretty cool.

It's great if you've already read the comic.

The only downside is it leaves out the journal exerpts between chapters.

Other than that... the whole thing is there in its entirety with voice overs.