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Some hope for FMV?

Posted: August 20, 2008 • 1:09 pm
by SeuLunga
Has anyone seen this: http://www.vimeo.com/1562801 ?

We could have our dear old Tex in new adventures forever, long after CJ decided to move to Boca.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: August 20, 2008 • 1:24 pm
by lotus_j
SeuLunga wrote:Has anyone seen this: http://www.vimeo.com/1562801 ?

We could have our dear old Tex in new adventures forever, long after CJ decided to move to Boca.
Interesting. Plus "Need For Speed," is going FMV in their latest with Maggie Q starring in the game.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: August 20, 2008 • 2:59 pm
by Electron Stu
This technology really would have nothing to do with "Full Motion Video" which is an antiquated term unto itself. If anything it would make better "in game" cinemas using wholly 3 dimensional game models used from the game itself. They'd just move real nice and more realistic. I must state that game engines are nowhere near that level of graphics. Immediately it'd probably help Hollywood in it's 3D movies for the time being. Down the road games will get to that clarity.

Here's a the link to the story I originally saw the video on, seems a bit clearer:

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 557935.ece

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: August 20, 2008 • 3:17 pm
by lotus_j
Electron Stu wrote:This technology really would have nothing to do with "Full Motion Video" which is an antiquated term unto itself. If anything it would make better "in game" cinemas using wholly 3 dimensional game models used from the game itself. They'd just move real nice and more realistic. I must state that game engines are nowhere near that level of graphics. Immediately it'd probably help Hollywood in it's 3D movies for the time being. Down the road games will get to that clarity.

Here's a the link to the story I originally saw the video on, seems a bit clearer:

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 557935.ece
I think he was implying that Tex and Chelsee could be recreated "young and youthful," vs relying on aging actors to play the part.

Also it could very well work for Tex and Company. Since they are seen in video playbacks vs. in game rendering.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: August 20, 2008 • 4:02 pm
by Frank
lotus_j wrote:
SeuLunga wrote:Has anyone seen this: http://www.vimeo.com/1562801 ?

We could have our dear old Tex in new adventures forever, long after CJ decided to move to Boca.
Interesting. Plus "Need For Speed," is going FMV in their latest with Maggie Q starring in the game.
I was pretty impressed by the mix mash of video and CGI in Need for Speed Most Wanted. The effect for the intro and certain cutscenes was far superior to the rest of the in-game cutscenes, and just pleasant to look at. Interesting technology that solves the generic/inhuman problem of 3d and cuts drastically on the budget and problems related to FMV. Makes it a whole lot easier to integrate with the rest of the game too.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: August 20, 2008 • 9:48 pm
by SeuLunga
lotus_j wrote:
Electron Stu wrote:This technology really would have nothing to do with "Full Motion Video" which is an antiquated term unto itself. If anything it would make better "in game" cinemas using wholly 3 dimensional game models used from the game itself. They'd just move real nice and more realistic. I must state that game engines are nowhere near that level of graphics. Immediately it'd probably help Hollywood in it's 3D movies for the time being. Down the road games will get to that clarity.

Here's a the link to the story I originally saw the video on, seems a bit clearer:

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 557935.ece
I think he was implying that Tex and Chelsee could be recreated "young and youthful," vs relying on aging actors to play the part.

Also it could very well work for Tex and Company. Since they are seen in video playbacks vs. in game rendering.
Eggxactly :)

I was also further implying that you could do what would be a FMV game from old without any actors, thus cutting the hassle of actually getting people to show up and act, leaving it all to programming and cgi.

Also, I don't think hardware will take a long time to get to that level; also, consumer graphic cards needn't that much power, since (as in FMV games), you could have everything rendered, recorded and played back only during gameplay, so the gamers' computers don't have to render it on-the-fly.

My point is: this kind of technology might finaly bridge the gap we feel between videos with actors and videos with 3d models in a game (note "in a game", rendered human beings will *always* be rendered human beings in a flick. There is no substitute for an actor in that media).

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 01, 2008 • 4:28 am
by Bjyman
Chris Jones isnt even that old yet.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 01, 2008 • 5:48 am
by Fred Buer
Chris Jones doesn't age with time. Chris Jones stares Time in the eye and challenges it to a duel once a decade. Chris Jones never loses.

Tempus can Fugit about it...

-Fred

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 01, 2008 • 3:22 pm
by DrPaul
I was also further implying that you could do what would be a FMV game from old without any actors, thus cutting the hassle of actually getting people to show up and act, leaving it all to programming and cgi.
Not quite. You still need actors from which to perform motion tracking. However, the actor doesn't have to look like the character he/she is portraying. Most, if not all, of the fine details of the facial movements and realistic body movements in CG characters are mapped from motion tracking on live actors. This is also true in the articles referenced in this thread.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 05, 2008 • 8:08 pm
by joliet_jane
Fred Buer wrote:Chris Jones doesn't age with time. Chris Jones stares Time in the eye and challenges it to a duel once a decade. Chris Jones never loses.
I believe you, but I'd still like to see more photographic proof. :wink:

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 07, 2008 • 9:04 pm
by adninsreaction
Fred Buer wrote:Chris Jones doesn't age with time. Chris Jones stares Time in the eye and challenges it to a duel once a decade. Chris Jones never loses.

Tempus can Fugit about it...

-Fred

So are you saying that along with his inability to age, he could also kick Chuck Norris' ass?

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 08, 2008 • 8:38 am
by Bjyman
Yes, with some pointers from Richard Norton.

Re: Some hope for FMV?

Posted: September 09, 2008 • 4:27 pm
by Fred Buer
I once beat Chuck Norris myself. We faced off, he roared at me, the mountains shook and the heavens trembled. Then I roared back, and Chuck got ginger hair and freckles.

-Fred