Well, as the tag line itself says, hell has frozen over. It's been shockingly close to 13 years since its announcement and it is finally here. When the game had been announced by 3DR, I was starting my first year of secondary school. Since then, I have had my first kiss, upgraded my PC nearly a dozen times, moved house twice, owned two gaming consoles, finished a university degree and currently ploughing through a second one and maintained the same job.
What has Duke Nukem done for itself? Honestly, I can't say because I don't own a copy yet. I have exams this week so i'm going to hold off just a bit longer. However, I have taken time to watch some gameplay videos on YouTube and I seem to move between one of two reactions: juvenile and boring. Essentially, it looks like Call Of Duty with aliens, strippers and sex jokes. That's about it. For a game that was promising unprecedented interactivity and action, at best, DNF sits comfortably in the current mould of the FPS genre. In no way has it revolutionised the gaming industry in the way that DN3D did.
The critical reviews are less than glowing also. According to Metacritic, the average rating for the X-BOX version currently sits at 55% while the PC version is around 71%. How the mighty have fallen. Had they have released the game back in about 2002 or 2003 (see the E3 2001 video on You Tube), it would have been incredible. But after over a decade of build up, hype and unmet promises, I'm not even sure if this title is going to enter with a bang before going out with a whimper. I'll give it a chance but expectations aren't high.
Anyone got around to it?
What has Duke Nukem done for itself? Honestly, I can't say because I don't own a copy yet. I have exams this week so i'm going to hold off just a bit longer. However, I have taken time to watch some gameplay videos on YouTube and I seem to move between one of two reactions: juvenile and boring. Essentially, it looks like Call Of Duty with aliens, strippers and sex jokes. That's about it. For a game that was promising unprecedented interactivity and action, at best, DNF sits comfortably in the current mould of the FPS genre. In no way has it revolutionised the gaming industry in the way that DN3D did.
The critical reviews are less than glowing also. According to Metacritic, the average rating for the X-BOX version currently sits at 55% while the PC version is around 71%. How the mighty have fallen. Had they have released the game back in about 2002 or 2003 (see the E3 2001 video on You Tube), it would have been incredible. But after over a decade of build up, hype and unmet promises, I'm not even sure if this title is going to enter with a bang before going out with a whimper. I'll give it a chance but expectations aren't high.
Anyone got around to it?
I've played it for about two hours. It's pretty average. It is juvenile, but I hadn't expected any less. I don't know if I will play much more of it, but I wouldn't say it's a terrible game. I had no hype going in because for the last 12 years, I never cared.
Travis Jacobs
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I am disappointed. I have not played it yet. Don't know if I will.
I had high expectations, because like you, I saw the E3 video along with the track by Megadeth.
(at least that is what the mp3 was labelled back then)
It looked amazing and like it was going to blow everything out of the water..... now..... eh.
Back then, Half-Life 2 had not come out yet.
I guess that is what happens with games in development hell. Look at Daikatana, and that wasn't even in development for that long. The only games I find that ever meet expectations after being delayed for a long time are Blizzard games. Why? Because they actually spend that time perfecting a game... not finishing it.
Anyway, I think I will just wait for Half-Life 2 Ep 3 and eventually Half-Life 3. Ep 3 shouldn't be too far off, considering Portal 2 is done now.... I am guessing they will be working on that next.
I had high expectations, because like you, I saw the E3 video along with the track by Megadeth.
(at least that is what the mp3 was labelled back then)
It looked amazing and like it was going to blow everything out of the water..... now..... eh.
Back then, Half-Life 2 had not come out yet.
I guess that is what happens with games in development hell. Look at Daikatana, and that wasn't even in development for that long. The only games I find that ever meet expectations after being delayed for a long time are Blizzard games. Why? Because they actually spend that time perfecting a game... not finishing it.
Anyway, I think I will just wait for Half-Life 2 Ep 3 and eventually Half-Life 3. Ep 3 shouldn't be too far off, considering Portal 2 is done now.... I am guessing they will be working on that next.
Matt
Exactly. DN3D sowed the seeds for increased interactivity in the FPS genre and then Half Life took it to a whole new level. When I saw the E3 2001 video for DNF, I thought, "oh my god, they're going to outdo both themselves and Half Life." I cannot contemplate for a second why that version was never released. To have that game between Half Life and Half Life 2 would have changed the face of what was then the modern FPS. Keep in mind this is the same company which developed Max Payne.lestat666 wrote:I am disappointed. I have not played it yet. Don't know if I will.
I had high expectations, because like you, I saw the E3 video along with the track by Megadeth.
(at least that is what the mp3 was labelled back then)
It looked amazing and like it was going to blow everything out of the water..... now..... eh.
Back then, Half-Life 2 had not come out yet.
For me, Max Payne was not only a marvel technologically but it also broke new ground in its style of story telling which yet again was a testament to how innovative 3D Realms was. They're starting to sound a little like Lucasarts aren't they? But given 3DR's astonishing output at the time, expectations were not unreasonably high for DNF and I honestly believe had the game been released then, my expectations (at minimum) would have been met but more than likely exceeded.
But like you said, there's more polish than substance now.
The Metacritic Stats for this game have just worsened. Check this out:
PC - 63%
XBOX - 50%
Keep in mind, this is an average of all the critical reviews cited so far and there's at least a dozen written on each platform. A shameful waste of time and money considering how much of each was invested into the making of this game.
PC - 63%
XBOX - 50%
Keep in mind, this is an average of all the critical reviews cited so far and there's at least a dozen written on each platform. A shameful waste of time and money considering how much of each was invested into the making of this game.
Composition of Duke Nukem Forever:
1. Linear On Rails Shooter - Wait for enemies to spawn, they spawn, shoot them, door opens, move to next room, rinse and repeat over and over till a boss fight.
2. LOAD SCREEN - Lots of these
3. Quick Time Event - Throw a few hundred of these in for good measure, yes when you thought QTEs were unbearable anyway.. we now put them in throughout the entire game everytime you want to open a door.
4. Space Invaders - just for the fork of it, lets put a turret shooter in the game where you shoot down space ships in a linear fashion.
5. Big Rigs - Yep there's driving in this game.. and yep its just about as unplayable as Big Rigs.
6. Every Arcade game we could throw in - ever wanted to play wack a mole in a strip club NOW YOU CAN.
7. We'll also have the game use regenerating health OH and you can only use 2 guns at a time.
I'm also offended by what Duke has become, associating himself with whores, strippers, drunks and the marines from Gears of War, I think Duke is dead to me, in this game I've seen him do some of the most disgusting things in any video game, it finally hit me after seeing Duke have anonymous sex with someone and throughout the game only ever used a condom ONCE.. Duke should have died from STDs.
I was speaking to friends suggesting that if I were to do Duke Nukem the game would start out with Duke as a fat guy who was so out of shape from playing his earlier video games, then someone comes in and says "Duke the world needs y.... oh fork! duke! what the fork happened to you!!" and then in the opening credits you're seeing Duke in a montage getting fit again, at the end of the montage Duke is on the scales (still fat) the scales go DING and duke is like "What the fork I put on 10 pounds!", the goal of the game would be that you start out as fat duke and by then end Duke has returned to his old self. The character would behave more like Johnny Bravo than the way he does now where by all his attempts to woo women would fall on deaf ears (many cases the women would get angry and kick him in the nuts where he'd go "KINKYYYY!" hehe.) To me this was always the humor that Duke had, that he was a fork up in the transition from Duke 2 to Duke 3D and that the only reason he's saving the world is to protect his own ego- not for anyone else's benefit.
The joke is that the ending of Duke3d was actually a failure, that Duke hadn't stopped the aliens at all, and just spent 12 years eating nachos and drinking beer. <WHICH IS WHAT 3D REALMS DID!
> (and on one of the computers should have World of Warcraft on it)
1. Linear On Rails Shooter - Wait for enemies to spawn, they spawn, shoot them, door opens, move to next room, rinse and repeat over and over till a boss fight.
2. LOAD SCREEN - Lots of these
3. Quick Time Event - Throw a few hundred of these in for good measure, yes when you thought QTEs were unbearable anyway.. we now put them in throughout the entire game everytime you want to open a door.
4. Space Invaders - just for the fork of it, lets put a turret shooter in the game where you shoot down space ships in a linear fashion.
5. Big Rigs - Yep there's driving in this game.. and yep its just about as unplayable as Big Rigs.
6. Every Arcade game we could throw in - ever wanted to play wack a mole in a strip club NOW YOU CAN.
7. We'll also have the game use regenerating health OH and you can only use 2 guns at a time.
I'm also offended by what Duke has become, associating himself with whores, strippers, drunks and the marines from Gears of War, I think Duke is dead to me, in this game I've seen him do some of the most disgusting things in any video game, it finally hit me after seeing Duke have anonymous sex with someone and throughout the game only ever used a condom ONCE.. Duke should have died from STDs.
I was speaking to friends suggesting that if I were to do Duke Nukem the game would start out with Duke as a fat guy who was so out of shape from playing his earlier video games, then someone comes in and says "Duke the world needs y.... oh fork! duke! what the fork happened to you!!" and then in the opening credits you're seeing Duke in a montage getting fit again, at the end of the montage Duke is on the scales (still fat) the scales go DING and duke is like "What the fork I put on 10 pounds!", the goal of the game would be that you start out as fat duke and by then end Duke has returned to his old self. The character would behave more like Johnny Bravo than the way he does now where by all his attempts to woo women would fall on deaf ears (many cases the women would get angry and kick him in the nuts where he'd go "KINKYYYY!" hehe.) To me this was always the humor that Duke had, that he was a fork up in the transition from Duke 2 to Duke 3D and that the only reason he's saving the world is to protect his own ego- not for anyone else's benefit.
The joke is that the ending of Duke3d was actually a failure, that Duke hadn't stopped the aliens at all, and just spent 12 years eating nachos and drinking beer. <WHICH IS WHAT 3D REALMS DID!
> (and on one of the computers should have World of Warcraft on it)I got this message from xentax.com
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Join us and complete the list of crap reviewers. We use the Richard
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Hey all,
Just a fun request, delete if not of interest.
Join us and complete the list of crap reviewers. We use the Richard
Whitehouse scale: Duke Nukem Forever is a 6.5-7/10 game. Period. It's not
awesome, it's not terrible. It still outshines a lot of other garbage FPS
games. This is the perfect opportunity to weed out game reviewers that
completely fail at objective analysis. List those reviewers that rated DNF
a 5/10 or lower, and those that gave it 8.5/10 or higher.
Help out at:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/XeNTaX/143458469022795
And we'll publish the complete list afterwards.
Cheers,
Mr.Mouse
--
Thanks, The Management
visit http://www.xentax.com