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Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 14, 2010 • 4:35 pm
by Jim the old guy
I like the fact that both Rook and Tex are throwbacks to previous generations and thus we have the typical rhetoric peculiar to both.
All in favor of Nilo being a mutated mutant give me an AMEN!
I, too, thought Hamm Underwood was a mutant but he could have been just an overweight numb-nuts. I mean, give away security info installed at Ching's place?
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 14, 2010 • 6:07 pm
by mr_cyberpunk
Hamm Underwood was clearly a mutant
I'm wondering about this because its interesting, in UAKM we don't see any security systems in mutant areas, just in the Norm areas but in Pandora we clearly see that Nilo has one. The other thing that I find odd is how Tex was likely the only person in chandler avenue to get an electronics shop card, but the next owner in Pandora charges cash for everything (yet the game clearly states that a credit card is required to even enter the shop).
Are we really sure Hamm was a mutant? sounds like a Norm to me. Hamm said that he's worked on security systems before, no Norms would allow a mutant to work on their security- especially knowing that most of them come from old sanfransico and are usually criminals. Rusty was probably the biggest criminal in Chandler Avenue.
I'm not aware that the overseer project was public knowledge, but we know that the moonchild was definately public knowledge, Tex's involvement however was not. This would have no doubt change people's attitudes towards mutants, seeing as though what they were doing was the equivilent of 1940s eugenics. I doubt overseer would be public knowledge because Law and Order would never allow that information to go public, they would have covered it up.
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 14, 2010 • 7:52 pm
by Bafitis
But Tex calls him a Mutant, not to mention half his brain is on the outside of his skull...
I guess we would need AC to finalize this discussion...
I'm fairly certain when you first walk in the Electronics Shop and Look at Hamm, that Tex says something about him being a short pudgy mutant...
AMEN, Jim...
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 14, 2010 • 7:57 pm
by mr_cyberpunk
It's been a while since I played UAKM, but you could be right. I'll have to do another play through over the weekend, I just finished Pandora.
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 14, 2010 • 8:12 pm
by Bafitis
Yeah I was thinking of doing a play through over the weekend myself... My Son just left to go to his mother's for the weekend, so I'm gonna be kind of bored... Nothing better to erase boredom than Tex...
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 15, 2010 • 6:26 am
by Jim the old guy
"Man, that pudgy computer dweeb really has a battered head." Isn't that close to what Tex said? If so, our discussion would need the aid of AC to finalize. I mean, I can't sleep at night worrying whether Hamm is a mutant or a norm!!!
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 15, 2010 • 2:11 pm
by Bafitis
Yeah I remember him saying that, but I remember him calling him a mutant at some point as well... I could be mistaken, I'll have to play it up to at least that point and redo the scene...
Or if AC poking around and wants to let us in on his thoughts of Hamm that would be great too...

Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 15, 2010 • 2:34 pm
by sam10100
You know what would be nice.
A complete transcript of the games. I don't suppose anybody's got something like that do they?
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 15, 2010 • 5:37 pm
by Cubase
sam10100 wrote:You know what would be nice.
A complete transcript of the games. I don't suppose anybody's got something like that do they?
Overseer has one of those. Using the overviewer you can actually extract the transcripts from each individual video file. I think it was used for the captions.
Actually, come to think of it, it stands to reason that all the games would have their caption transcripts hidden in the game's code somewhere. Just a natter of finding them.
-Cub. =o)
Re: A Casual Observation
Posted: October 16, 2010 • 10:40 am
by mr_cyberpunk
Would be nice if we had some extraction tools. I have really wanted to go digging around UAKM's file structure for a while. The file types are so old that I don't think anything modern can open them.